Comments on: Egos, the Students, and The Greater Good http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/ ...for educators, bassists, enthusiasts, & parents - information on teaching, playing, learning, maintenance, technique, construction, and more. Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:58:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: admin http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/comment-page-1/#comment-5077 admin Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:28:35 +0000 http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/?p=1662#comment-5077 Chris, once again you raise insightful points. I feel I should be creating appreciators and the future audience of classical music. My students have recently asked to perform specific classical pieces so I think may me doing my job. I should also be laying a solid foundation so that a student has the vocational option to pursue music if they so choose. Chris, once again you raise insightful points. I feel I should be creating appreciators and the future audience of classical music. My students have recently asked to perform specific classical pieces so I think may me doing my job.

I should also be laying a solid foundation so that a student has the vocational option to pursue music if they so choose.

]]> By: Chris Strough http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/comment-page-1/#comment-5071 Chris Strough Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:49:57 +0000 http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/?p=1662#comment-5071 Another point to consider is that, as a teacher, you've chosen to help the kids out, not forward your musical agenda. A true educator would find out what interests that "weaker student" had, and work with them. Sure, he may not be a great clarinet player in an orchestral setting, but he may have some awesome ideas on how to set-up the playbills, or to tweak the sound system for recordings, which in it's own way will add to your ensemble... More than once, I've kept "weaker" members in my groups because they had strengths in other areas (tech, booking, management)... I know that I don't only speak for myself when I say that although I was involved in an ensemble, it wasn't where my interest truly rested... but the experiences that I gleaned helped me to structure my other interests in better ways. Another point to consider is that, as a teacher, you’ve chosen to help the kids out, not forward your musical agenda. A true educator would find out what interests that “weaker student” had, and work with them. Sure, he may not be a great clarinet player in an orchestral setting, but he may have some awesome ideas on how to set-up the playbills, or to tweak the sound system for recordings, which in it’s own way will add to your ensemble… More than once, I’ve kept “weaker” members in my groups because they had strengths in other areas (tech, booking, management)…

I know that I don’t only speak for myself when I say that although I was involved in an ensemble, it wasn’t where my interest truly rested… but the experiences that I gleaned helped me to structure my other interests in better ways.

]]> By: Tony http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/comment-page-1/#comment-5070 Tony Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:23:57 +0000 http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/?p=1662#comment-5070 I don't remember anything. I don’t remember anything.

]]> By: Admin http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/comment-page-1/#comment-5049 Admin Mon, 15 Feb 2010 02:55:20 +0000 http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/?p=1662#comment-5049 Excellent points! Excellent points!

]]> By: Chris Strough http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/egos-the-students-and-the-greater-good/comment-page-1/#comment-5046 Chris Strough Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:02 +0000 http://petertambroni.com/mostlybass_wp/?p=1662#comment-5046 I'm still playing for a living, and am much happier in a group of B+ players with no attitudes/egos than with some of the A+ players I've been around. We have more fun during the shows, are more relaxed, and tend to draw the audience in with our interactions. I'd rather the crowd (and the band) had fun the whole night, than dropped their jaws on the ground for a couple of songs but didn't enjoy the overall experience. In watching groups, one of the instant "turn-off's" is to realize that someone has an over-inflated ego. I'll go down the street and watch a band that is not as good, so long as the chemistry is there. Luckily (more towards your post) most of my teachers have been pretty "low-ego", which allowed me to take much more away from their classes and choose to remain involved in music. I hate hearing "yeah, I used to play, but my teacher was a real prick so I quit". They're there to learn. They won't all be rock stars. Deal with it, don't take it out on them... I’m still playing for a living, and am much happier in a group of B+ players with no attitudes/egos than with some of the A+ players I’ve been around. We have more fun during the shows, are more relaxed, and tend to draw the audience in with our interactions.

I’d rather the crowd (and the band) had fun the whole night, than dropped their jaws on the ground for a couple of songs but didn’t enjoy the overall experience.

In watching groups, one of the instant “turn-off’s” is to realize that someone has an over-inflated ego. I’ll go down the street and watch a band that is not as good, so long as the chemistry is there.

Luckily (more towards your post) most of my teachers have been pretty “low-ego”, which allowed me to take much more away from their classes and choose to remain involved in music. I hate hearing “yeah, I used to play, but my teacher was a real prick so I quit”.

They’re there to learn. They won’t all be rock stars. Deal with it, don’t take it out on them…

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